The autopsy
Robert was taken to The John Radcliffe Hospital for an autopsy from which the following images are extracts.
The autopsy took place on the 6th of September.
The findings of the autopsy were kept from the family and they only discovered them at the Inquest in April 2012 a mere 7 months after his death.
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The autopsy took place on the 6th of September.
The findings of the autopsy were kept from the family and they only discovered them at the Inquest in April 2012 a mere 7 months after his death.
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The first says other injuries, the second says no other injuries. Also note the comment on two puncate abrasions on his wrist. (punctate: spotted; marked with points or punctures). Could these have been caused by someone holding his wrist whilst wearing a ring? Like this one! 1. He didn't fail to show for duty. He wasn't due to start until 1400 hrs. 2. The Police had made their mind up before questioning the medic. 3. Mind reading is now part of policing and science. 4. No signs of a struggle or defence wounds? See above! |
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Date_rape_drug
There is currently no comprehensive data on how frequently DFSA via surreptitious drug administration occurs, because many victims do not report their assault, and because rape victims who do report are often either never tested for these drugs, or are tested for the wrong ones, or the tests are administered after the drug has been metabolized and left his/her body.
A 1999 study of 1,179 urine specimens from victims of suspected DFSAs in 49 American states found six (0.5%) positive for Rohypnol, 97 (8%) positive for other benzodiazepines, 48 (4.1%) positive for GHB, 451 (38%) positive for alcohol and 468 (40%) negative for any of the drugs searched for.[3] A similar study of 2,003 urine samples of victims of suspected DFSAs found less than 2% tested positive for Rohypnol or GHB.[4] The samples used in these studies could only be verified as having been submitted within a 72-hour time frame or a 48-hour time frame. Some of the substances tested for, such as GHB, are not detectable after 8–12 hours.
GHB/GBL/1,4 BDO[edit]Gamma-hydroxybutyrate (GHB) is a central nervous system depressant. It has no odor, tastes slightly salty,[26] and is almost undetectable when mixed in a drink.
GHB is used recreationally to stimulate euphoria and hallucinations, to increase sociability, to promote libido and lower inhibitions.[27] It is sold under names such as Liquid E and Liquid X. It is usually taken orally, by the capful or teaspoon.[28]
From 1996 to 1999, 22 reports of GHB being used in DFSA were made to the United States Drug Enforcement Administration. A 26-month study of 1,179 urine samples from suspected DFSAs across the United States found 4% positive for GHB.[27] The National Drug Intelligence Center (NDIC) says that in the United States GHB had surpassed Rohypnol as the substance most commonly used in DFSA, likely because GHB is much more easily available, cheaper and leaves the body more quickly.[27][29] GHB is only detectable in urine for six to twelve hours after ingestion.[29]
A 1999 study of 1,179 urine specimens from victims of suspected DFSAs in 49 American states found six (0.5%) positive for Rohypnol, 97 (8%) positive for other benzodiazepines, 48 (4.1%) positive for GHB, 451 (38%) positive for alcohol and 468 (40%) negative for any of the drugs searched for.[3] A similar study of 2,003 urine samples of victims of suspected DFSAs found less than 2% tested positive for Rohypnol or GHB.[4] The samples used in these studies could only be verified as having been submitted within a 72-hour time frame or a 48-hour time frame. Some of the substances tested for, such as GHB, are not detectable after 8–12 hours.
GHB/GBL/1,4 BDO[edit]Gamma-hydroxybutyrate (GHB) is a central nervous system depressant. It has no odor, tastes slightly salty,[26] and is almost undetectable when mixed in a drink.
GHB is used recreationally to stimulate euphoria and hallucinations, to increase sociability, to promote libido and lower inhibitions.[27] It is sold under names such as Liquid E and Liquid X. It is usually taken orally, by the capful or teaspoon.[28]
From 1996 to 1999, 22 reports of GHB being used in DFSA were made to the United States Drug Enforcement Administration. A 26-month study of 1,179 urine samples from suspected DFSAs across the United States found 4% positive for GHB.[27] The National Drug Intelligence Center (NDIC) says that in the United States GHB had surpassed Rohypnol as the substance most commonly used in DFSA, likely because GHB is much more easily available, cheaper and leaves the body more quickly.[27][29] GHB is only detectable in urine for six to twelve hours after ingestion.[29]
the inquest
The inquest was held at Oxford Coroners Court on the 11th of April 2012, presided over by Geoff Webb. He is the one who released Robert to his family on the 13th of September on the word of a single Policeman's report. No RAF personnel other than the Male and Female Medics and the RAF Police Corporal were allowed to attend on orders from the RAF. However Robert's Sergeant did attend in civilian clothes.
Suffice to say they kept up their usual inept standard, with the RAF Police Corporal failing to bring his notebook, along with failing to remember names of those in attendance.
The male medic got his wish and received his anonymity. However in front of everyone openly admitted it was common knowledge he was gay. He swore he didn't touch Robert, and it was Robert who initiated everything.
The female medic when asked what state she was in, laughingly said Merry, Tipsy, Drunk. Then said she couldn't remember anything. Remember her words here because they were used in another case which will be pointed out a little later on under the RAF section.
Robert Fleeting's body was discovered by colleagues shortly after 12.30pm on September 4 after he failed to turn up for lunch following a night out.
The inquest was told he had been out drinking with a group of friends in Henley the night before his death. They returned to the base at around 2am.
When he failed to show up later that day, his colleagues Richard Daly, Gregg Metheringham and Mark Consterdine went to look for him.
Unable to open the bedroom door, Mr Daly gave Mr Metheringham a leg up and he saw Mr Fleeting hanging from the back of the door.
Mr Gardiner was told Mr Fleeting, of Mallard Crescent, Greenhills, East Kilbride, Glasgow, had not seemed too drunk during the night out and appeared in good spirits.
But toxicology results from the post-mortem examination showed alcohol in his blood and urine which was between three to four times the drink drive limit.
(There is no toxicology result for blood shown in the pm report and the urine shows no alcohol report. The stomach contents only slightly smelt of alcohol).
Professor Ian Roberts, consultant pathologist at John Radcliffe Hospital in Oxford, who carried out the post-mortem examination, said the cause of death was asphyxiation due to hanging.
Charlotte Wood, a medic based at RAF Benson who had been out with the group, said when they returned to the barracks Mr Fleeting had become involved in a short disagreement over taxis with another colleague, referred to as Mr AB, who had also been out with them.
She told the inquest she was not under the impression Mr Fleeting was homosexual as she knew he had a girlfriend in Scotland but that, following his death, Mr AB had told her that something had happened between him and Mr Fleeting that night.
"He said they had gone back to his room, had a few drinks and that stuff had happened, that they had had sex."
(Remember his statement? We had not discussed either of us being gay or anything like that and I would not have said anything to anyone about what had happened).
Mr AB, who told the inquest he had met Mr Fleeting through training exercises at RAF Benson, said he had invited the firefighter back to his room for a few drinks and they ended up kissing and having sex.
He did not know anything about Mr Fleeting's sexual orientation and what had happened had been spontaneous, he said, adding that Mr Fleeting stayed with him until about 4.30am or 5am before returning to his own room.
Mr Gardiner asked: "When you parted company was there any sense of regret? Did he seem upset?"
Mr AB replied: "No."
The inquest was told Mr Fleeting's family had expressed doubts over whether he had written the notes found in his room but Detective Sergeant Darren Cartwright, from Thames Valley Police, said the notes and a sample of Mr Fleeting's handwriting had been sent to a forensic scientist who deduced that the notes were written by him.
Mr Gardiner said nobody would ever know what had happened between Mr Fleeting leaving Mr AB's room and the time his body was found.
"One difficulty which has been put to me is the fact there is no indication he had homosexual tendencies prior to this event," he said.
"That is one powerful argument - that he might have been distressed that a homosexual act had occurred.
(Or he may have been distressed because he had been raped)!
"That would have been a dreadful blow to someone who was engaged to be married. I strongly suspect it was that realisation which caused him to take the action he did.
"If he did take that action, I cannot conceive it would be an accidental event given the notes that he left."
Following the inquest, Thames Valley Police Detective Chief Inspector Mark Johns said: "The coroner has returned a verdict of suicide which is consistent with our investigation into the tragic death of Robert Fleeting.
It was here that the family discovered that Robert had sustained internal anal bruising. A full 7 months after they had had their son cremated. They have stated had they known about this then Robert would never have been cremated.
The Coroner commented on the medics' evidence as not being forthcoming with the truth. A statement he has recently denied making. The same Coroner told the Police Sergeant at an earlier meeting in front of the family, that not everyone from Scotland was Rab C. Nesbitt. Another statement he can't remember saying.
From this point on Justice for Robert was born and in 3 short years had gained some 20,000 members. Those numbers remain approximately the same today
Justice for Robert shook some big branches of big trees, and the RAF decided to hold a Service Enquiry. (This should have happened immediately as per MoD Regulations).
Suffice to say they kept up their usual inept standard, with the RAF Police Corporal failing to bring his notebook, along with failing to remember names of those in attendance.
The male medic got his wish and received his anonymity. However in front of everyone openly admitted it was common knowledge he was gay. He swore he didn't touch Robert, and it was Robert who initiated everything.
The female medic when asked what state she was in, laughingly said Merry, Tipsy, Drunk. Then said she couldn't remember anything. Remember her words here because they were used in another case which will be pointed out a little later on under the RAF section.
Robert Fleeting's body was discovered by colleagues shortly after 12.30pm on September 4 after he failed to turn up for lunch following a night out.
The inquest was told he had been out drinking with a group of friends in Henley the night before his death. They returned to the base at around 2am.
When he failed to show up later that day, his colleagues Richard Daly, Gregg Metheringham and Mark Consterdine went to look for him.
Unable to open the bedroom door, Mr Daly gave Mr Metheringham a leg up and he saw Mr Fleeting hanging from the back of the door.
Mr Gardiner was told Mr Fleeting, of Mallard Crescent, Greenhills, East Kilbride, Glasgow, had not seemed too drunk during the night out and appeared in good spirits.
But toxicology results from the post-mortem examination showed alcohol in his blood and urine which was between three to four times the drink drive limit.
(There is no toxicology result for blood shown in the pm report and the urine shows no alcohol report. The stomach contents only slightly smelt of alcohol).
Professor Ian Roberts, consultant pathologist at John Radcliffe Hospital in Oxford, who carried out the post-mortem examination, said the cause of death was asphyxiation due to hanging.
Charlotte Wood, a medic based at RAF Benson who had been out with the group, said when they returned to the barracks Mr Fleeting had become involved in a short disagreement over taxis with another colleague, referred to as Mr AB, who had also been out with them.
She told the inquest she was not under the impression Mr Fleeting was homosexual as she knew he had a girlfriend in Scotland but that, following his death, Mr AB had told her that something had happened between him and Mr Fleeting that night.
"He said they had gone back to his room, had a few drinks and that stuff had happened, that they had had sex."
(Remember his statement? We had not discussed either of us being gay or anything like that and I would not have said anything to anyone about what had happened).
Mr AB, who told the inquest he had met Mr Fleeting through training exercises at RAF Benson, said he had invited the firefighter back to his room for a few drinks and they ended up kissing and having sex.
He did not know anything about Mr Fleeting's sexual orientation and what had happened had been spontaneous, he said, adding that Mr Fleeting stayed with him until about 4.30am or 5am before returning to his own room.
Mr Gardiner asked: "When you parted company was there any sense of regret? Did he seem upset?"
Mr AB replied: "No."
The inquest was told Mr Fleeting's family had expressed doubts over whether he had written the notes found in his room but Detective Sergeant Darren Cartwright, from Thames Valley Police, said the notes and a sample of Mr Fleeting's handwriting had been sent to a forensic scientist who deduced that the notes were written by him.
Mr Gardiner said nobody would ever know what had happened between Mr Fleeting leaving Mr AB's room and the time his body was found.
"One difficulty which has been put to me is the fact there is no indication he had homosexual tendencies prior to this event," he said.
"That is one powerful argument - that he might have been distressed that a homosexual act had occurred.
(Or he may have been distressed because he had been raped)!
"That would have been a dreadful blow to someone who was engaged to be married. I strongly suspect it was that realisation which caused him to take the action he did.
"If he did take that action, I cannot conceive it would be an accidental event given the notes that he left."
Following the inquest, Thames Valley Police Detective Chief Inspector Mark Johns said: "The coroner has returned a verdict of suicide which is consistent with our investigation into the tragic death of Robert Fleeting.
It was here that the family discovered that Robert had sustained internal anal bruising. A full 7 months after they had had their son cremated. They have stated had they known about this then Robert would never have been cremated.
The Coroner commented on the medics' evidence as not being forthcoming with the truth. A statement he has recently denied making. The same Coroner told the Police Sergeant at an earlier meeting in front of the family, that not everyone from Scotland was Rab C. Nesbitt. Another statement he can't remember saying.
From this point on Justice for Robert was born and in 3 short years had gained some 20,000 members. Those numbers remain approximately the same today
Justice for Robert shook some big branches of big trees, and the RAF decided to hold a Service Enquiry. (This should have happened immediately as per MoD Regulations).